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On Friday morning, I started my day sitting outside in my yard while people looked through items I had set out for my yard sale. On Friday evening, I was on the phone talking to Doug Bursch on his Live from Seattle radio show.
Isn’t it funny how life works sometimes?
That morning, I was having a lively conversation at my yard sale with someone who had named her children after some of the more obscure biblical characters, when someone walked up to me and asked (in jest) if I was selling salvation. His comment made me laugh, so I posted on Twitter about it. Just a few moments later, a conversation began.

Would I like to talk about ways to raise up more female leaders in the church? Um…yes! That’s one of my very favorite things to talk about!
My interview with Doug starts just before the 46:00 mark, but just shortly before that, Doug shares some of his own story. He was a gracious host, and asked thoughtful questions that helped our conversation to touch on deep and important topics. I felt at ease, which is really saying something considering how nervous I was before we went on the air!
I hope you’ll listen, and join our conversation by jumping in on the comments here on my blog. I’d love to know what questions (if any) our conversation brings to mind for you.
[soundcloud url=”″ params=”auto_play=false&hide_related=true&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true” width=”100%” height=”300″ iframe=”true” /] I also just want to highlight an excellent show of Doug’s that I hope you’ll listen to. I enjoyed his conversation with Tim Fall on what it looks like to be a Christian when you are in a job that requires the execution of justice. At the end of his show, Doug gives a take on Cain and Abel that is just fantastic. I can’t stop thinking about it. I hope you’ll give it a listen.
Are you in a church that is doing well at raising up young, female leaders? What are they doing well that we can learn from? Are you a woman in church leadership? I’d love to hear your stories about what kinds of things were done for you along your journey into ministry.